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Saturday, September 24th, 2011
2:57 pm
Snoopy Update

Snoopy had his vet visit on Wednesday to get his mouth examined, teeth clipped, nose flushed and endoscoped, and ears cleaned and endoscoped.

He is so much happier and it's awesome. He's eating like he used to and he's just happy.

The vet just called me with the culture results. Good news, they were able to grow a culture from the sample they took deep in his nose while he was sedated. Bad news, "there was some Pasteurella in there."

Gentamicin was included with his nebulizer medications, but my vet said that she would put together gentamicin for sub-q injections for me to pick up Monday to do in addition.

I'm confident in the nebulizer (we start tonight), but now I'm a little worried about the Pasteurella. Do you think this was the initial problem ~3 years ago and the culture, which wasn't as deep, just didn't catch it? If he's had it for all of this time will we be able to fight it?


I'll post pictures of Snoopy's tooth clipping procedure soon. I was lucky and my vet let me be there the whole time and I even got to help out a little.

Wish us luck!

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Friday, September 16th, 2011
2:23 pm
My bun Snoopy has had a chronic nasal infection for quite sometime now, since I joined the community. We tried all different kinds of medications, including sub-q bicilin, but nothing worked and he didn't seem to get any better or worse. It also didn't seem to bother him much, either, other than the sneezing. A culture had been done but nothing was found, so we decided to just let him be and stop the meds.

Coming back to the present, his infection has gotten worse and is causing him more difficulty with his breathing, so we went back to the vet. She recommended a nebulizer, which I remember hearing about in this community, so I was all for it.

But how do you pick a nebulizer? Is there a difference in the $30 and the $100 ones?

Can I get this cute penguin compressor which is only $30?

While at the vet this afternoon, we found that he also has malocclusion and will need his front teeth clipped and his rear teeth examined. So he's going back next week and they're going to sedate him to perform that prodecure. While he's sedated, they're taking that opportunity to use the endoscope to look up his nasal passage and also will take a culture sample.

I got the estimate for the nebulizer costs and a prescription to purchase a nebulizer, but no medication yet, so I assume that will be handled after the appointment on Wednesday.

Back to my original purpose in this post, is there a difference in nebulizers?
Monday, August 1st, 2011
11:44 am
a chapter ends
For those who have not already heard, the Mighty Pepper Bunny - who was the original reason I formed this community - died last Thursday afternoon.  She was nearly 7 years old, I had had her for nearly 6, and she had battled chronic pasturella for nearly 4 years.  She fought to the very end, and received the very best vet care, but in the end it was simply too much for her overtaxed body

The vet offered to do a necropsy free of charge, and I consented.  I wanted to know what had happened and wanted to add to the general realm of knowledge about buns.  I will post the results beneath the cut.
Necropsy report on PepperCollapse )

Of course, I am devastated.  Pepper was my first real animal companion (hamsters are cute but you don't exactly form a relationship with them) so I am grieving terribly.  Her final expenses were quite high, so I am really not in a position to adopt another rabbit any time soon.  But I have donated her unused medical supplies (and a big load of greens from my organic garden) to the bunnies at the Red Door shelter, and will be fostering buns for them as soon as I am able.

Current Mood: exhausted
Wednesday, March 9th, 2011
8:25 pm
5 weeks
Bella is only managing (less then) five weeks off of medication before she relapses.

Advice? Encouragement?

Current Mood: crushed
Wednesday, January 5th, 2011
1:08 pm
So Bella has been diagnosed with snuffles, as I previously mentioned. However, it has already relapsed. In my mind, in my mind it seems a bit soon, but I am kinda new at this so I was looking for some opinions.

Here's what has happened so far:

Bella was diagnosed - started Trimel (2 doses daily for 3 weeks)

Approximatly 2 weeks later symptoms had stopped improving. She had gotten even worse then she was before treatment started. Went back to the vet, they added Baytril on top of the trimel (2 doses daily for 3 weeks)

In total she had been on medication for 5 weeks.

Week 1 - trimel
Week 2 - trimel
Week 3 - trimel +baytril
Week 4 - baytril
Week 5 - baytril

So now, here we are, 5 weeks after she has finished a 5 weeks course of medication, she has had a relapse. Normal? Opinions? Experience?

Current Mood: worried
Saturday, January 1st, 2011
9:05 pm
Bringing out the big guns
Well, for more than a year now we've had Pepper's symptoms under control. Every 5-6 weeks she'd start sneezing again, but after 2-3 treatments with nebulized amakacin in the "StinkyBox" she'd be fine again. But a few weeks ago she started sneezing more, and even after 5 treatments over the course of 2 weeks she was not only not getting better but she seemed to be getting slightly worse over time.

So off to the vet we went...

She took a look over Pepper's chart and we talked about various options. Since I have VPI for her, I was able to leave cost to a large extent out of my calculations. We decided to do a nasal flush and culture - mostly to see if it's the same bug flaring up or a secondary infection. I had stopped the nebulilzer treatment a week beforehand, so while there is the chance that it will be harder to culture anything because she'd been exposed to antibiotics recently, since there had been a pause I hope that we'll still be able to get some good information from the culture.

But since she's already immunocompromised and we've tried all the usual (and some of the unusual) antibiotics with her, the vet felt that is was time to consider the "big guns", as it were.

We're going with .65ml of injected PenG every other day, while upping the nebulizer to every other day as well. Of course I also have a Probiotic to give her so that all of this doesn't throw her tummy off - I'm not too worried about that since she's always had a cast-iron tummy. I'm also supposed to up her ear-cleaning to weekly instead of monthly as she's looking a touch goopy. I admit that I'm a little woogy about having to give her shots, but I will manage. The vet showed me some really good techniques, and enough raisins and nutriberries will eventually earn me forgiveness.

Honestly the most difficult part is going to be the fact that I'm committed to going to a friend's memorial in Kentucky on the 15th and because of this whole regimen I'm going to have to haul her with me on the trip - I can ask a neighbor to stop in and top off her veggies but inject-able medications are another story. The vet recommended 2 weeks of treatment but we had to go for 3 because I have to make this trip.

We're on 2 days of this and while she is still sneezy her energy level seems up a bit so I'm hopeful we're on the right track here. I won't get the culture results until later this week, and the vet will tell me if we need to change things up at that time.

Current Mood: determined
Thursday, December 9th, 2010
3:44 pm
Is pasturella contagious?
Is pasturella contagious to other buns?

Bella was diagnosed a couple months ago, she's 1/2 of a bonded pair with Alex. Just wondering if I need to be prepared for them to both end up with it.

Also, is it contagious to other pets? More specifically, cats and dogs?
Sunday, July 25th, 2010
4:46 pm
Does Leah sound like she has the snuffles
I have a question since i think Leah may have the snuffles. Does these symptoms sound like it:

1) Constantly cleaning her face.
2) Heavy breathing.
3) Falls over when shakes head (She'll shake her head and lose complete balance. Giving me many small heart attacks). 
4) Very little appetite. 
5) Feels hot even when i had the fan on full blast and her own my bed in the high air conditioning.
6) nose sound congested and feels wet to the touch.

I've been to the vet 3 times in the last week. Her ears checked out fine and Dr. Carrie said her lungs sounded normal. She gave me some pain meds and she's on critical care, gas meds,and pineapple juice. Dr. Carrie was reluctant to give her antibiotics at first since she is afraid to mess up her system. I plan on taking her back to the vet tomorrow since the whole falling over when shaking is making me a nervous wreak. I just want to know if i should bring up the subject of the snuffles first. 
Friday, April 23rd, 2010
10:52 pm
Good article on Pasteurella
Came across this on Facebook today - it's the newsletter of the Columbus House Rabbit Society. There is a GREAT article there on URIs and/or pasteurella - I'd have been a lot less panicked when Pepper was first diagnosed if I'd had that as a reference.

Current Mood: hopeful
Friday, January 15th, 2010
6:19 pm
My setup
I finally got around to taking pics of the nebulizer setup I have for Pepper's treatments, and figured that it should go here for reference. Feel free to link.
picsCollapse )

Current Mood: working
Thursday, October 29th, 2009
10:14 am
Checking in and Checkups
I'm hoping that because we haven't had a lot of activity on here that everybun is doing well.

Pepper and I have settled down to a rhythm in dealing with her symptoms. Most of the time she's fine, but every 6-9 weeks she'll start sneezing again. When that happens, per my vet, I either put her back on the oral antibiotics (with appropriate probiotics as well) for a week or put her in the "StinkyBox" with nebulized amakacin 3 times in a week, and she's just fine.

I'll take her back to the vet in November, before her insurance resets, to check in and top off the various meds, but I'm guessing that we're in a semi-permanent holding pattern.

How are your buns?

Current Mood: pleased
Monday, August 10th, 2009
4:17 pm
I tempted Fate...
The very next day after posting my "Bruiser is fine. Lalala" post I noticed mucus stains by his nose.


Baytril it is then!

They seem to have reduced already, but I'll take him into the vet once I'm done with the antibiotics anyway. And I may pop in over the next couple of days and pick up some Benebac.

Thursday, August 6th, 2009
2:13 am
Another Update on Bruiser.
He seems to be absolutely, 100% fine.

He;s sneezed a couple of times in the last cople of days but I think that if I wasn't on the lookout for anything unusual I wouldn't even have noticed it. So I don't think it's anything out of the ordinary.

No signs of any more mucus, no signs of breathing problems, no more blowing bubbles from his nose!

He's also moving lts, eating lots, drinking lots. So I really, really don't think he has a problem.


I still have the Baytril on standby just in case.
Friday, July 31st, 2009
10:47 am
So we went to the vets this morning and I explained what had happened. The vet checked Bruiser over fully and gave Smirnoff a quick check too.

He said that Boo looks all clear today (nose clean and dry, lungs sound good, no rapid breathing) and if it wasn't for what happened last night he wouldn't know there was anything wrong with him. He said that he has seen rabbits before that, when scared or stressed, breathe fast enough that they bring up any fluid from their lungs and start frothing and that he thinks this is probably what has happened with Bruiser. He said that even though Boo's used to the dog having him in his "safe space" may have been too much for the little fella.

He's given me some Baytril anyway but has told me not to use it unless there's more mucus as he doesn't want to do anything that might upset the bacteria in Boo's gut (Boo had gut problems in January). So i'll be keeping a very close eye on both him and Smirnoff for any other problems.

He also checked Boo's teeth and told me hat there was a small spur (which I already knew) which would probably have to be filed down at some point in the near future (which I already knew). So I'm going to book him in for that in the next couple of weeks.

So we're home again. I let Boo out of the travel cage and he immediately hopped into his cage and flopped down on the cushion that's currently in there.

Here's a picture of Bruiser from a few days ago.

Excuse me. Slave. My bowl appears to be empty.

Thursday, July 30th, 2009
10:56 pm
Possible Snuffles?
I think Bruiser has the snuffles...

He's spent today sitting in his cage rather than UnderTheBed, where he normally hangs out. He's been eating and drinking fine, so I didn't really think anything of it. Then this evening, after the dog wormed his way into the cage (Bad dog! Go to bed!), he started sneezing and swiping at his face and blowing bubbles out of his nose. Closer examination revealed quite a bit of thick mucus coming out of his nose.

I phoned the E-Vet and she said it sounded like snuffles and to cover his cage, keep him warm and stress him as little as possible and then to bring him in first thing tomorrow morning (10 hours away!). She said she could come out now but it would cost a lot and she'd only give him the antibiotics that she'll give him tomorrow anyway.

Strangely enough she said to keep Smirnoff with him. She said that taking her away would probably stress him more (true, he worships her and follows her around everywhere) and that if she was going to catch it she would probably have done so by now.

So they're now shut in the cage which is covered with towels. They have extra fleecy balnkets inside and a bowl of spinah and carrots, which they're both munching happily on. The heating has been switched on and turned up to warm up my room.

Wish us luck for tomorrow morning. I'm going to be panicking all night.
Wednesday, April 1st, 2009
11:33 pm
Friday, February 27th, 2009
1:24 pm
Just got a call from the vet, and the bacteria they tested positive for was not Pasteurella, but Bordetella. I can't remember the name of the antibiotic she said is good to combat it, but I'm going down later today to pick it up and HOPEFULLY we'll see some results. Fingers crossed!
Wednesday, February 25th, 2009
9:56 pm
So, about a week after Otter's xray fiasco her sneezing started coming back, regardless of the fact that she was on the SMZ-TMP. And then Egan started getting a little runny-nosed again, as well.

SO we went on a nice trip back to Chippens Hill to see Dr. Sweet again. The good news is, she didn't hear a heart murmur in Otter this time - it was probably stress induced. From being in a strange place, alone, while waiting for her head xrays.

We did some chest xrays on Otter, just to make sure that the virus/bacteria/ WHATEVER she has hasn't spread - Dr. Sweet was concerned about the fact that the sneezing suddenly came back, even though she was on antibiotics, and we wanted to make sure that it hadn't spread to her lungs/lower respiratory system. More good news there, her lungs look clear and healthy.

We also got a swab from Egan's nose and are having another culture test done. We're functioning on the assumption that he and Otter are probably sharing the same bacteria. Since Egan was off of meds for a good month, and he had active discharge (not to mention his nose is SO much bigger than Otter's) it was a lot easier and less stressful to take a sample from him, and hopefully this one will turn up some results we can work off of. I should get the call with results sometime before friday, and then we can decide what course of action should be taken. Until then both of em are on enrofloxacin, since that did a good job of stopping Otter's symptoms the last time she was on it.

As usual I have to fight with Otter to get her to take it, but Egan is hilarious. I have to fight with him not to completely LOSE the syringe as he tries to yank the whole thing out of my hand as he's sucking down the meds.
Wednesday, February 18th, 2009
9:21 am
Snoopy's Story
It's about time I put this thing together.

Snoopy's StoryCollapse )

What do you all think? He's never got to the point where he needed help clearing his nasal passage and he's still active and has a healthy appetite. I'm also going to send this to the lady we adopted him from because she's got 20+ years of rabbit experience.

I just feel bad because we brought him home and now he's sick. So I feel like it's my fault and I just want him to be a happy and healthy bun.

Current Mood: worried
Tuesday, February 17th, 2009
9:58 am
cautious optimism
Well, we've passed the three week point and I've not heard a sneeze yet!

In the past when we took Pepper off meds she would relapse within 3 weeks. But this time looks like it's holding, at least for now.

As a reminder, over the past 9 months we tried:
Baytril - 4 weeks - short-lived improvement but otherwise ineffective
Chloramphenicol - 7 months with 2 short breaks during which symptoms came back
Sulfa meds plus nebulized amakacin (sp?) solution - 4 weeks

So the key here seems to be to continue to be open to new therapies and treatment options. I'm well aware that she could well relapse at any time, but we have a treatment strategy in mind to start up the moment I notice any changes in her condition.

Pepper is clearly feeling wonderful. Last weekend she actually dug the videotapes out of the TV stand and got far enough inside to move the NIC grid aside and nibble the wires to my stereo! I assume that if she's getting into trouble again then she's feeling fine - so on the way home I stop off to pick up pellets and electrical tape.

Current Mood: relieved
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